A look at Teoh’s death probe
Relatives and friends carry the casket of Teoh Beng Hock (Reuters)
Wendy Ferrer
Yahoo! Malaysia
Teoh Beng Hock’s death has stirred the anger of many Malaysians, and has forced the government’s hand into setting up a royal commission to investigate the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Agency (MACC)’s interrogation methods.
But strong public outrage has called for a probe into the circumstances of Teoh’s death, prompting a public inquest.
Attention shifts to underlying issues that will test the government’s system and policies, as well as test the new administration’s attempt to push for a ‘1Malaysia’ concept in a country where the majority of the 27 million-population are Malays but where there are big ethnic Chinese and Indian minorities.
The inquest will draw statements from 77 witnesses including 28 MACC personnel, journalists – as well as Teoh’s fiancée, Soh Cher Wei.
The probe into Teoh’s death also comes at a time when Prime Minister Najib Razak’s approval ratings soared after gaining stronger support from ethnic Chinese voters.
Ibrahim Suffian, head of pollster Independent Merdeka Centre which conducted the survey, was quoted in a Reuters report saying Teoh’s death has the potential to ‘drag down support levels of the government and Najib’.
The investigation has been adjourned to the 5th of August, and is expected to be completed in 15 days.
But do you believe any good will come out of this inquest?
I m of the opinion that at the end of the day, it would be found that probably the late Mr. Teoh was tired after the lenghty interrogation and had misstep and fall over. I do not think there was any malice involved. I symphatized with the family on their bereavement but lets not waste too much public funds over this incident and proceed with improvement of our lives. I m sure that was what the late Mr.Teoh would want too.
why a RCI needed in 1st place? police incapable of doing the job?
how many RCI have been set up and what are the outcome since independant, any statitics?
what happened to RCI on Linggam? no action?
RCI, police n MACC all are mere to close peoples eyes. nothing else. No Truth will come out. none is professional or afraid of truth or justice…all fake and drama.
personally i don’t think any good will come out of this investigation. frankly i have lost faith in the system.
I believe no good will come out of this inquest.
Its a waste of time searching for answers because everyone has forgotten how to tell the true story since there are too many people making up stories.
one thing is clear, the whole system, its enforcement really stinks.
Greed has set in at all levels and there is no stopping in getting rid of the truth.
there is no trust in the system and above all, there is just so much of talking but no one has the guts to make the bold changes. why?
It’s hard to believe that the late Mr. Teoh was left on his own without being accompanied by any MACC personnel after being interrogated at length. It’s also hard to believe that due to extreme fatigue, he had a ‘mis-step’ which had caused him to fall to his untimely death. Is that window ledge at the MACC office low enough to allow an adult to easily trip over it? And now, it’s been reported that there are a trace of unidentified male DNA on the clothes of the deceased. Does it belong to the alleged perpetrator? Why can’t the DNA be identified? The plot thickens…
i don’t think there will be any outcome ,eventhough the authority claimed that they found unidentified male DNA in Teoh’s clothes .The person may have just hug him ,touched him or anything ,how to proof that Teoh is being murdered by purpose ? There is no video cam .I even think that it is MACC intention to NOT to put video cam so that they can “do whatever they want ” to the witness or suspects .
people have lost faith in the government.So do i .
Buatlah apa sahaja dgn RCI ini,tida siapa nak percaya. apa sudah jadi dgn Cadangan RC kpd PDRM.. mana dia IPCMC. gaji naik, rumah yang selesa, tapi adakah rasuah dah kurang. buka balai polis di taman, selang 5 kedai dari balai polis kedai basikal tulis nombor ekor haram. ini dekat taman seruling emas sg bakap, sps..itu vk linggam kes apa dah jadi? itu kugan kes apa dah jadi? itu kes khir toyo apa dah jadi? rakyat dah sedar, cakap sahajalah satu malaysia,satu bumi, satu langit..tiada sapa na percaya. saya ni bodoh undi BN pada pilihanraya ke12..ramai lagi bodoh mcm saya, yg undi PR itupun bukan pandai tapi rakyat mahu perubahan.. CHANGE,CHANGE,CHANGE, kalau PR tak betul tukar dia 5 tahun kemudian, change,change,change.
If all of us don’t have faith in the government, we are free to go to any other country in this world to find one which suit us. Setting up RCI or not,either one the government is wrong, so what ?
if u dont believe in the system, what else good that u have in mind. Your own lousy political motivated thoughts? MACC is established not to murder anyone, u watch too much movies, this is no james bond film, it’s just u with bad breath talking nonsense.
Dear Zakaria Shamsuddin ,
If you think that he fell asleep from 14th floor, why there is no huge blood splash on the floor? Why the is only minor breaking bones in the leg? Will such injuries cause death? Why his stomach was swollen? Why there is no serious injured head damage and his skull is still “near round”?
Furthermore, if you are in his shoes will you sleep there in the first place? Although he is tired and if he sleep inside his car is still acceptable. Do you think people would believe such “moronic” reason?
That is an absolute malice!
If the government embarks us to be unite as ONE MALAYSIA. i think the government should be transparent to reveal the truth of Beng Hock.
What a one Malaysia? Not even one Perak or One Kugan?
Anyway, I believe that the police investigation is just a formality procedure to prove that BN has done something as to address all the public need.
I have no trust in their system. Police or MACC is just an authorized “robber” !!!
personally, I feel that its a waste of time. Wouldn’t it be better that the Govt get the RCI to investigate the matter seriously? I’m sure that the public is curious to know the cause of Teoh’s death. At least it is fair to his loved ones also.
Welcome to malaysia… Death + Report = Nothing happen. Dont step on the wrong foot
Kebenaran hanya akan ada bila ada kepercayaan… Kalau tak percaya, mana ada benar… Dan kalau ingin kan kepercayaan, perlu ada kebenaran… Jadi, sama-sama la kita menghargai apa saja kebaikan yang telah di beri dan menjadikan iktibar atas keburukan yang di ajar kepada kita, atau diberikan kepada kita… Bersama-sama juga kita mengharmonikan negara demi untuk anak cucu kita… Dulu-dulu takde plak jadi mcm ni…
Another Commision another Inquiry what good has come out of all these from Bumiputra Finance scandal to Lingam case to many other corrupt
practices costing RM BILLIONS to Malaysians.What happened no Ministers
went to jail or commited suicide unlike in Japan ,S Korea etc etc etc.
Completely corrupt politicians milking the country dry with no will
to carry out these reforms and why should they as all are guilty.
REMEMBER THE LONDON NEWSPAPERS LABELLED MAHATHIR MR 20% when he
promoted CLEAN EFFICIENT AND TRUSTWORTHY and he says he is taking
legal action????????????????? What happened after that somebody should ask him what he has left us with.
well….i don’t get it???!!!!why does the government need to set up the RCI or handle this case to them………….??????or either the police are not capable to handle the case by themselves……..
Sudah sampai ajal dia. Ajal dan maut terletak di tangan tuhan. Semoga tuhan akan memperlihatkan kebenaran kelak
There will be a lot of cover-up by the authority. Even after the identity of the “other DNA sample” has been established, it could be just another scapegoat used to cover up the actual perpetrator.Just like the Mongolian Beauty case and the Anwar 1st sodomy case.No one will ever know the truth except GOD. So leave it to GOD to bring justice.
if the system is really transparent and fair…Altantuya wont have died for nothing and the killer wont end up as PM
I’m really sorry for Teoh’s family. All the MACC, PDRM, RIC, etc. are in the same boat.
If we press hard enough for an answer eventually there will just find a scapegoat for it. This kind of act is not new to us and we have seen it so many times. What happen to cases like… C4, Linggam, PKFZ, 24 mil mansion,… ??
I plead that we stand strong and bold together to fight for a clean government. Everyone of us should do our part for our next generation. God bless Malaysia.
In the end, they’ll try to convince us he fell by himself, by accident or suicide.
If they try to pin the cause as murder, the so-called DNA found on him could possibly be planted, courtesy of the recent DNA bill.
I’m curious as to how they’re going to explain why:
1) there’s no blood splatter on the ground if the cause of death is the fall itself, and
2) if he was indeed released much earlier before his body was found, how was it his phone was in the possession of the police and MACC all this while? Wouldn’t it be smashed along with his body if he fell after his release?
3) No calls made to his loved ones upon his release during such a god-forsaken hour?
Too many holes for them to plug up. Why do you think they don’t dare to have a ROYAL inquiry on his actual cause of death?
If our own citizen have no longer trust in our Malaysian system..who could be the right authority to do so.. or should the opposition party’s itself do their own investigations and tell the truth to the rakyat in their manner? or just simply believing our learned bloggers comments? or should we let the foreigners to do the job for us? But one thing you should know is that MAFIA could do anything beyond your expectations..
The government & MACC (Murder And Corrupt Centre) is the same person, even the police. They not doing their parts & some more, like to postpone the case till the end of the world. I hope one day, our country will be taken over by japanase or western country like US/UK.. Remember the reporter of TV3, she was sack bcoz of some bad comment on NaaaJiib…. Stupid G….! Damn
If the malaysian royal police are not capable of solving the case with their ‘kuno’ technology, just let specialist from other country to step in and investigate.
najib should be suspended from his post as pm while he’s one of the suspect for alantuya case. now he wanna win the minorities heart by saying 1malaysia and all those craps…GOOD BYE MALAYSIA
Oh please. Misstep? The DNA on the blazer back and belt at very least imply the possiblity that Teoh was held. This inquest is absoulely neccesary.
Dear All commentors, you all semua ‘MENGONG..’ coz tau comment saje. I can also say that bloody person was hutang AH Long so much and that was the right time to attacked him. If nobody can reveal the real story, the investigation cannot find any result… all of us will fight each other. Come on laaa you people dont respesct each other and use blog media to ridicule people. Let see face to face laaa. you beat me I beat u back.. Ada brani ka (I AM MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT SUPPORTER. IF YOU DARE TO BE POLITICIAN THEN YOU ARE FACING BANDIT AND ENEMY DOESN’T MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE PR OR BN)
I agree with most of the comment. This Beng Hock case will end up to nowhere as other cases like Lingam and Kugan. This all Barisan trick to blurr Malaysian eyes.
Please check the previous death which is falling from high rise building (tower) then you will mostly to know whether the cause of Mr. Teoh’s death was caused by falling from tower or other reason. Please study the body of late Mr. Teoh, it is most likely the cause of death is NOT because of falling from high rise building. Does any people working in that tower heard any SOUND falling? Please imagine it is a working time.
UNBELIEVABLE! MALAYSIA BOLEH.
Why PM need to visit Beng Hock family? and Beng Hock is not even a minister or Royal family..PM should responsible for country economy issue..if PM keep involed in those small matter ( case kacang putih) and we Malaysia rakyat could have big problem in our near future economy. So Please!!! Tuan PM look more into our Malaysia economy..we need your help..Jaga rakyat bukan jaga orang da meninga (History)….
Teoh die in the MACC Building and has things to do with them, indicated he is murdered by MACC. MACC never has a good name, racist and stupid.
ACA is such corrupted that they had their hands on Teo.
If there were a fair judgement to this case, there would still be hope for Malaysia.
I’m too, do not believe there’s going to be any good out of all this, we have seen & heard lot & lots of issues as long as it involving the police, MACC, legal system or even the settting up of this RCI, it would not be different …. they’re still the SAME people under that same command, those are people who carry out their works without moral values, no better than an a….
For Tan, you might be one of those people above, the public has been sick of all that has happened and happened & do understand that the publics understood what the gov’t has done. “Jangan pakai cawat lagi”
Establishment of the MACC is just a disguise of the present gov’t to cover their evil deeds.
The man is dead and no one is going to step dowm, I for one can’t even remember his name. Maybe we will get a scrape goat, maybe just forget about it with time.
But please remember do not ever give the govt. absolute power, Once you have a government with absolute power, than you can except a Sadam type of rule.
Suggest we, back barisan all the way, prase them and worship them, be supportive to their 1 Malaysia propoganda but do the opposite on election date.
Only with check and balance will we prosper as a nation.
You may not beleave me but Indonesia is the next emerging nation. Don’t be supprised that our grand children will be going to Indonesia to work as general workers, as Malaysian’s grouth will be superseeded by Indonesia in about 15 to 25 years. We need serious changes in Malaysia.
Millions of lives comes and go, everyday. We are saddened by such death. But why must it be blown out to such a propotion? Can we just leave the authorities do their their job? Some says I don’t trust the authorities?…then who?…c’mon, we are born,live and probably die in this country, we must know the ‘roof and the walls’ we are staying….the point to ponder is…it seems that what we like, we will trust and when comes to things we do not like, we just say, we don’t trust…..what is this
If there were fair justice to this case, there would still be hope for Malaysia.
i believe that someone killed him.that person should get back on what he did to teoh.i dont trust police & BN anymore.back stabber!Now i”m with justice!
In this country the BN govt. is an authoritarian govt. They’re in control of the police, the army, the judiciary, the anticorruption agency etc and the list goes on and on….
I have no confidence in the justice system of this country and there’ll be no justice in the investigation of Teoh’s death.
In fact, I won’t be surprised that Anwar will be convicted of sodomy despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary and the judge will still convict him of sodomy.
En. Zakaria… remember SAVING PRIVATE RYAN?… cant U get the morale of the story.
Leave the case to these 3 heroes, its either Grissom-older n wiser than fishburn, Horatio-talks in style, or Mac the Yankees. Im sure one of them or perhaps 3 of them can solve it within 1 hour or the most is 2.(based on their previous cases).
enough is enough….if u dont beleive in the system be it…but my bet is… your dream system is only fair to you and your cronies…and calamity and disaster is the sure outcome of that so called dream system of yours…and by that time we will be much worst than any impoverish african country we know now
If they use an equal-weight-object to drop from 14th floor, & calculate back his weight before dead & use such weight object to drop from 14th floor, the distance can predict whether Teoh was died before that.They can also get weather/ wind directions from weather authority too. DNA is not the only thing.Watched it from Singapore Crime Watch.
but, making so many news is just to stop public outrage. Time will dilute everything.This is what their normal strategies.At the end, no one is at fault, no one is being caught,no one is responsible.We have seen all kinds of cases ended like these, from the stupid Highway Contract to murder case now. Malaysians are so kind, so gullible, build a few major expressway in our town, have our road nicely build in our taman, maintain the petrol price, we will forget and be good citizens again.
Why should MACC disposed a dead body in their building? Isn’t it stupid as so many questions can be raised? People will always look at the obvious first. If they do that, they will definitely hang their department by the rope.
For all I know, this Teoh guy probably walked in his sleep. Maybe he had this great urge to take a leak that night. Instead of opening the bathroom door, he opened up a window and jumped right out.
Why waste public fund on such inquiries? If you know so much on the cause of death, why don’t you just say it out loud.
Ishaq said:
If all of us don’t have faith in the government, we are free to go to any other country in this world to find one which suit us. Setting up RCI or not,either one the government is wrong, so what ?
Well, Ishaq, if we do not have faith in the government, we should only need to vote out the politicians who presnetly in control of the government, and vote in their political opponents to take over the government. If we the people want to see improvement in our nation’s government, the first step is not to leave for another country.
Sorry, typing error…
What I meant to say in my last post is:
Well, Ishaq, if we do not have faith in the government, we should only need to vote out the politicians who are presently in control of the government, and vote in their political opponents to take over the government. If we the people want to see improvement in our nation’s government, the first step is not to leave for another country.
get a engieering and a medicine professors, two of them come together will tell you what is the impact force on to the ground will be when a normal body of say about 60 kg.(about 130lb) falling from (14th storey) about 150 feet, at the acceralated force of gravitational pull. the impact could well be over 20,000 foot-lb. then the medicine professor can tell you under such impact what the body will end-up like, number of bones triple, skull flattened, stomach and blood splattered round the whole area.at time of living body or dead body contacting the hard ground from such height we can visualize the scenerio like. a practical experiment can be carried out by throwing a 60 kg living, and a dead creature, can be a calf or donkey… from 14th storey. …
YobDaud said:
Dear All commentors, you all semua ‘MENGONG..’ coz tau comment saje. I can also say that bloody person was hutang AH Long so much and that was the right time to attacked him. If nobody can reveal the real story, the investigation cannot find any result… all of us will fight each other. Come on laaa you people dont respesct each other and use blog media to ridicule people. Let see face to face laaa. you beat me I beat u back.. Ada brani ka (I AM MALAYSIAN GOVERNMENT SUPPORTER. IF YOU DARE TO BE POLITICIAN THEN YOU ARE FACING BANDIT AND ENEMY DOESN’T MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE PR OR BN)
YobDaud, each of us has the right to express his/her view on this matter. Of course, you are correct to say that one should not abuse this right. But let us not lose sight that the late Mr. Teoh Beng Hock’s right to a future life as a husband & father has been suddenly robbed away from him. Of course, many people will express anger & outrage. The only people who would not respond in the same manner are either the alleged perpetrators or those who believe that the late Mr. Teoh Beng Hock had actually done something so wrong that he deserves this kind of fate. But has anyone, especially the MACC & even the PDRM, proved that the late Mr. Teoh had actually done anything wrong and broke the law?
to all commentor’s. u are figthing n argue each others. thats is good n god sign that u alls are society of caring human beings. the 1 malaysians govt also should think a same way like u to reach 14 floors where the late of teoh felt from. but they only reached 7 floors n the raise was tighten with security.i think someones must go n check the building where all the guards went when its happen. maybe the guards was bribe to minum teh tarik n makan roti canai by macc in their own building..so guards never border about what will happen to teoh as far that’s their never miss their free meals.
SAYA ORANG MALAYSIA YANG MENETAP DI SINGAPURA DIMANA BAPAKNYA DAN ANAKNYA ADALAH PERDANA MENTERI.NAMAKAN LAH NEGARA YANG TAK CORRUPT? SINGAPURA? CHINA? INDIA? AMERICA? INDONESIA? THAILAND? PHILIPINES? ARAB ? SEMUANYA SAMA LAH .KORANG NI ORANG KAMPONG YANG SUKA BERPOLITIK DUDUK KAT STARBUCK{KEDAI KOPI GENERASI BARU}.KERJA SUDAHLAH JANGAN NAK BERCAKAP MACAM ORANG PANDAI TAHU SEMUA.
Seriously, those who support our current government, I envy you guys. The lack of brains in the your head is seriously amazing and how you can pretend to be blind to a dead man are wonderful. Really hope that this kind of cases happen to your own kin and I will see whether you would give any care about it then.
The family is just asking that people do the investigation properly this time, don’t freaking sweep this under the rug like how all other big cases involving the big shots / government! I hate war, I hate how stupid our politicians like to bicker like kids in a playground, and I totally despise both BN and PR.
We should be growing together yet we only backstabbing each other. Freaking grow up and solve this Beng Hock case, if you are wrong, admit it for goodness sake – no matter what religion you believes in, God knows. It is either hell now or hell later. Admit your fault and honestly, it might just be your salvation. Good luck and may Beng Hock find his way now.
Hello John W.B., This Teoh guy is a witness. Did anybody accuse him of wrong doing? Don’t go and tell great grandfather story la. Even before the inquest start, you guys go and jump the gun saying that nothing good will come out of this. You and your kind are all alike. I’ve enough of your lies and deceiving tactics.
Dear Zakaria Shamsuddin,
If you’re so determined to believe the official story, that’s your privelege.
But please don’t expect the rest of the country to sweep this under the carpet too. An innocent life has been lost, while in the custody of the MACC. Pure and simple.
Dear Md Yusoff Kamil
You prefer to believe mafia stories over what commonsense tells you? And yes, if the present government cannot be trusted at all now, it’s better to bring in IMPARTIAL foreign experts. It’s sad that Malaysia has reached this level.
Frankly, it’s so obvious to everybody that a cover-up is happening here.
Only those who are willfully blind will not see nor admit that.
all our gran fathers had work hard here, tin miners, rubber tabbers, construction workers, small biz men, farmers and etc..now we are office executives, business men and work fairy hard and trade fairy, afraid to loss customers like ordinary people. Not so many of us are top management, top government authorities and having the top luxury of position and power. Like every one else, we need to work and pay debt. Before, we work hard to survive. and now seems like we have to write hard on the internet to survive and express. Why? becouse the death of ordinary ppl like anatuya and recently’s beng hocks’ cases made everyone scare.
I like Ammar Roshidy said, 15 or 20 years time, our gran children will work in Indonesia as general worker if we are not changing. Anyway, it is doesnot matter to us, our life are always hard and easily waste as an ordinary people.
Personally, i am not expecting the outcome, as i am not going to believe it. Ask the people around, conduct survey. How much percentage of people of Malaysia STILL think that the government and system (PDRM, MACC, etc… just name it) are reliable? Rest in peace Mr. Teoh…
there r sure nothing get out from d result . really hopeless in this government for too long. why not malaysian wait up by now and change new government. at least clean for awhile unlike d present one, too dirty already. wait up ! malaysian .. change b4 it’s too late although it’s already too late! at least better than hopeless..
You can set up another 100 commisions to investigate but the verdict has already been there, that is, the late Teoh fell from the 14th floor and died; cause of death being the fall and there is no foul play involved, as has already been concluded by the Police. Just to please the family of the late Teoh and those asking for a RCI, the PM Najib, is trying to prove the BN Govt listens to the people by setting up the RCI and an inquest.
What we need to investigate now is: Why he fell? How he fell down?
Were there anybody involved from the MACC for the fall?
If you can not find the answers foe these questions, I’m sure the Govt is wasting the tax payers’ money unnecessarily! Even if they were to find anything abnormal, it’s of no use like the Lingam Video Tape case where until now nothing has happened to the people involved?
sorry for d previous message ‘ wait up! ‘ ,instead should be ‘ wake up! ‘ .
Anyone who is in the custody of the police, MACC or any other authority cannot suddenly be dead and that authority shrugs and sys : Dunno, this fella ‘jumped’, ’slipped’, ‘choked on water’, etc and id dead, not my fault. The authority is responsible and owes us a thorough explanation and in a case of wrongdoing, owes us the names of the guilty officers, and a review of their methods of custodial ‘care’!
Maybe there’ll be truth (or not) – we give the authorities the opportunity to explain – see if they can tell the truth or not.
BTW – that window on the 14th floor with the broken handle is not waist height – it’s almost 4 feet high – so Zakaria Shamsudin – go try an slip and fall out of that kind of window!
Anyone who is not worried that this kind of deaths keep occuring with ou authorities; I wish you and your loved ones try a taste of it!
Dear All,
What if both Teoh and Kugan are our brothers? Would you say the same thing that you all said in your comments? We all want justice even though the world is not fair all the times. But we will always strive to have the fairest justice we can get. Do not ever give up and always pray to the one and only GOD.
It Is so wrong, absolutely late Beng Hock death was not cause by accident, misstep and felt, not fall dead from 14th floor. Beng Hock case will not getting anywhere. How to live in One Malaysia? All politicians want us all to conflict with each other. So they will come and be good one to help you for a vote. Sad to see such case can happen like Beng Hock and others. How many our Malaysian fellows need to tolerate this. Our country is getting worse to worsen. Which these kind of cases had never had before.
Well,if you people don`t like the country and the system,you can leave.
Go to america or germany or any other countries who talked so much on human`s right,will you be accepted if you don`t look
like them?Big NO,unless you have a specialty that their people don`t
have..May be if you can twist your body into the shape of `8` without breaking your bones….MAY BE only…Or may be you should go back to where your ancestors came from!!!
Tired of bullshit said: “Seriously, those who support our current government, I envy you guys. The lack of brains in the your head is seriously amazing and how you can pretend to be blind to a dead man are wonderful. Really hope that this kind of cases happen to your own kin and I will see whether you would give any care about it then.”
Those who support the PR are actually the ones lacking the brains. Remember the girl who was shot naked in jail doing the “ketuk ketampi” and was misled into believing that the girl was from china. Did DAP apologise to the government for giving this misleading information? No they did not. The girl was later found out to be a malay girl and they did not even apologise to the malay girl.
So why should I believe this whole crap right now. People died every day, some even died due to freak accident. DAP never cares. They only care for their own kind.
You people think you can talk justice. It not easy to run a country. Don’t find trouble and you’ll make lots of money and everyone can be happy. Everything will be forgotten sooner or later. Accidents do happen okay, don’t make a big issue out of nothing. Grow up!
Trust the people and authorities concerned – dont abused, wayang and do lip service
Culprits must be brought to justice and dealt with without further delay to deter further recurrence of similar incidents for the sake of all rakyat/residents in malaysia
and built up the country trust levels in the eyes of other people from other parts of the world
its doesnt matter what that case took…but i wonder what it cost when this case finally reveal??….and i wondering why we push aside our police..they who got speciality on it..experience…they who know how to deal with its.what the point we spent billion of RM into police force their equipment,training,facility…etc..and just to find out there other “person” (who not have enough ability) got the trust to handle the case…its a shameful mind to let our police force down..think like this guy.’how can an art teacher teach math class,instead we got a math teacher’…its pointless..this what was happen now…dont set our mind that the police is always a negative thing to thought about.their job to fight the crime…sacrifice their family,life..even their own personal thing to make us..me..live and walk safely back home see our kids,wife.but what about them?…we talk negative about them becoz we never appreciate what they doin…are it payoff??..we know some of them are bad…but its too small number of them…let have some faith on our police force…if i have choice to choose career,i would like to join police..i will leave my rm4k salary a month job to join the police force…becoz its an honour to serve…
The late Mr. Teoh was illiminated from the race to enrich certain personality definitely by hired hand as evidenced by the “male DNA” found on the belt .
I believe and have faith in my country’s system and am perfectly feeling free in this country for more then half a centuary. The system happened to be so good that in my state those who had fought against the government in the 60’s were brought back to society and given new life and some are rich.
Harry, Shubry, Lokman Ali, Marina Hue
Wow, you sound so alike. Did Utusan Malaysia send you in here? You sound very much like the comments it so loves to publish.
You Umno cybertroopers have a long way to go before you can convince anybody lah.
But I don’t blame you for failing. It’s far harder to justify lies and cover-ups, than it is to just tell the simple truth.
Bertaubat lah.
Dear fellow folks,we are all being a caring and loving citizen should not bark onto each other simply being some bad hats around us.It is obvious that those who eats chilly feels the heat.It is time that the government to look into ways to suppress the level of corruptions in our country to the lowest possible and find ways to revive our current economy instead of criticizing each other,we are all destined to be born and live here by the will of god regardless of race or religious,no body is empowered to ridicule each other.I am indeed saddened by the way fate happened to the late Mr Teoh which leaves permenant pain and despairs to his family and love ones,every one should put ourselves onto their shoes if this were to happen to our family members,how do we feel?I believe majority of us are waiting to see how justice would prevail…may god bless you all!
Dear Mr. Lokman Ali,
You should follow me to the 14th. floor and half a day later your will family members find your body on the ground floor.
I will tell your family members that you sleepwalk and fell.
If they believes my story, I will salute you at your grave site try to raise fund to built a monument for Mr. Lokman Ali.
its a tragically death…but we cannot blame anyone now..unless its been judge by the law…the more you blame someone,the more you hate…and its not good for us..we leaving peace for how many year dude?…u guess it..but 4 me..let this case flow in the law order…not just by you,me..either somebody out there…anyway..life must be go on…right???….its a good you have concern about the case…but we just express our sympathy only…not to arguing and hate each other…
Zakaria Shamsuddin said:
I m of the opinion that at the end of the day, it would be found that probably the late Mr. Teoh was tired after the lenghty interrogation and had misstep and fall over.
Wont it sound better like this late Mr. Teoh was tired after the lenghty interrogation and one of the officer told him that,there was a Shopping Mall around the corner open 24/7.Have a look 1st before you went home.
Come on man if you have been interrogation for a long period of time the 1st thing you go for was the lift and when straight home cause you know you are going for Registration Office later to get married…
Dont tell me you are going to the window and look down in the midnight street searching for your CAR…..
Shopping Mall
Lokman Ali said:
Why should MACC disposed a dead body in their building? Isn’t it stupid as so many questions can be raised? People will always look at the obvious first. If they do that, they will definitely hang their department by the rope.
For all I know, this Teoh guy probably walked in his sleep. Maybe he had this great urge to take a leak that night. Instead of opening the bathroom door, he opened up a window and jumped right out.
Why waste public fund on such inquiries? If you know so much on the cause of death, why don’t you just say it out loud.
Lokman Ali as you know US got FBI and we got FBA then follow by CSI unfortunaly TV havent show MACC in series..so that’s why CCTV in MACC not show how late MR Teoh be that time…bang Lokman…cun cun that time either CCTV breakdown or the whole building black-out….as you know this building is free to walk around without any-Pass or code…
You people are sad and pathetic to speculate about what’s going on.
Royal commision set was mere distraction.
There is no level playing field or truth in Malaysia.
Everything is heresay including police investigations.
Malaysian police investigation is a joke. In fact another commission has to be set up to investigate the police investigations.
Here is a suggestion. GET RID OF CORRUPTION. That means 70% of politicians and 50% of the police force will be out of a job.
MACC has too much power and there are no checks and balances associated with that agency. The power has gone to their heads.
Whatever lies people may tell, one day people will know the truth. It’s a matter of time.
if he can’t take the pressure and commit suicide, should we care?why must the government spent money to investigate. I don’t think there was a foul play. He was involves in the scandal and knew that his career is in jeopardy. Either he resigned or kill him self to get out of the problem. I think all the top politicians whom commit those scandals before shall resign but not necessarily to kill them selves. but in Malaysia too many thick skin politicians. Look at Samy vellu, mohd taib, rahim tambhy chik and so many others. Personally I salute the late Teoh on his dignity, though committing suicide is not the answer.
“Phil said: But I don’t blame you for failing. It’s far harder to justify lies and cover-ups, than it is to just tell the simple truth”. Well maybe Phil can enlighten us with the simple truth or accusations (
That’s what they like to do). It’s you who need to “bertaubat”.
Come on. We don’t have to argue or fight over our opinions. Coz the truth is the government is corrupt. And we are moving backwards. That’s all.
Guys, do you know that Teoh’s death was due to investigation on misused of state exco fund of RM2,400? It is just an investigation and the late Teoh was a witness and not a suspect.
Because of RM2,400, this young man has perished. To me, the MACC Chief, The MACC Director of Investigation, and as well the Minister incharge of MACC should resign for this over-zealous action done by their people. Even better, review the MACC reporting structure. Get them report direct to the Yang Dipertuan Agong or Majlis Raja-Raja(Rulers Conference).
It is high-time now that Malaysia’s Rulers play their part as it seems that the BN Government is becoming a dictator and apartheid government.
Dear thetruth
Just becoz of the political scenario, you pray for our beloved country to be collonized again..? What kind of a person are you..?
No need for the Japs or US/UK to come here…it’s you who should go there and don’t ever come back!
Malaysia don’t need people like YOU!
the only thing good about the whole episode is that MaLlaysia is dawning on a new era.. Iron fists fell in the form of suharto and marcos…lets see the next gen election and i will bet my head on a platter like Shakespeare’s McBeth’s served on a silver platter if Pakatan will not take over.
Teoh’s death will not be in vain..he will make Malaysia soar alongside the United States in a world of justice and good governance!!
as for Zach Shamsudin…pls wake up and smell the coffee or our own version of Msian kopi tarik!!!!!
while the DAP exco are busy robbing the Selangor people’s money, Teoh tries to reveal. end up with death. Do u think we still trust on DAP ka? Bullshit la korang. Kaki pembohong, kaki botol,keje nyer mabuk layan pelacur je tau … tu la cina malaysia kalo korang nk tau! bukak kedai judi haram, rumah pelacuran, berniaga kalau tak bohong dan menipu bukan cina nama nya.. org melayu kena tipu sudah lebey 50 thn…tak boleh ke korang jadi baik??? kita manusia tetap manusia. org melayu bg duduk kat tanah melayu ni terima kasih la sikit. mintak macam2. xcukup kaya ke??????????????????
i think we all should read utusan newspaper. read the ‘rencana’ section.
hi guys,we cannot trust malaysian goverment.most of the case they cover up.what means bumiputra and warganegara ????
if the goverment dont like chinese and indian just openly say that,
we can find way to other country.im sure in the future warganegara malaysia will became slaves,trust me.
IF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NO FAITH IN THE GOVT, POLICE OR RC, THEN WHY THEY STILL IN THE COUNTRY, GO TO OTHER COUNTRY AND SETTLE DOWN THERE AND BE A GOODY GOODY CITIZEN THERE TOO
It’s a common trend in this country that someone or something must succumb first before it gets the right attention. History points to Highland Towers, Bkt Antarabangsa, Altantuya, etc…the list goes on and reminds us of the famous quote once made by Tun M”…Malaysians will forget in 100days…” and that sadly, reflects on all of us!Riding on this, I fear that the time taken to set up the Royal Commission, investigations leading to a conclusive report will surpass the 100day mark. No matter what is done and steps taken, there will always be the biggest doubt in people’s minds and that is about transparency.
I agree 100% with every comment. As usual the commissions result after running around in circles will be inconclusive and the case will be swept under the carpet then a totally new case will arise….its totally Malaysian Style. But nevertheless as this will make a good prime time serial as all our representatives up there are excellent actors.
Let thinks as an adult, Close yours eyes and take a breath, so that u can see it clearly. whatever it happen, it happens. Who can stop that.Dont deny yourself. Dont judge it without thinking. Do u believe the God? if yes… let God take a sollutions. thank you.
Lokman Ali said:
Hello John W.B., This Teoh guy is a witness. Did anybody accuse him of wrong doing?
If he was only just a witness, one wonders why there are some people who imply that he had succumbed to his fate after being overwhelmed by the pressure being guilty of some wrong-doing.
Lokman Ali said:
Don’t go and tell great grandfather story la.
It’s strange that the mention of somebody’s great grandfather gets dragged into this when people are just exercising their right to express their opinions or views on this webpage.
Lokman Ali said:
Even before the inquest start, you guys go and jump the gun saying that nothing good will come out of this.
May be it was somebody else who had posted such a statement on this webpage, but I did not simply imply that nothing good will come out of this.
Lokman Ali said:
You and your kind are all alike. I’ve enough of your lies and deceiving tactics.
Seriously, I don’t know exactly what ‘kind’ you are referring to here, but there’s no benefit in simply accusing others of lying and deception on this webpage when they are simply expressing their views here.
@Lokman Ali
Honestly, did you bother to read my full message / post? I did not say that I support DAP, PR, or who whatsoever. I said that I HATE all these hypocrites that only bother to do something when they want the votes and later on disappear off with big houses, fancy cars and so on. There might be a few good ones, but honestly, how many good ones do you see there? I have yet to find one, from ANY of the parties that I see in Malaysia, most of them are just hypocrites that decided to support justice one day and take bribes the next day.
I only wish that all these people who say that they want to bring up Malaysia, would actually do it instead of bickering over each others’ faults. I know it is easier to say than to actually do it but sigh, there should be a clear boundary over the evil that we do. If Beng Hock really fell down on his own, why not do the probe into what happened? There should be nothing to hide at all. If someone actually have something to do with his death, it is again as I said, either it is hell now or hell later. Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Muslim (in alphabetical order), all believe in God(s). All believe that we will get our judgment later – why burden yourself with such sins? I sure as hell that I do not want to rot in hell. If you are a free thinker then, honestly, I can’t say much – I just know that I fear hell and I don’t hope to burn there forever.
Truly wish Malaysia the best, I will be retiring there one day and I hope, at that time, we will at the bare minimum – respect each other in regardless of race, religion, and status.
First Kugan dan Teoh ..Whoo next???????????
Deaer Guys and fellow countrymen whoM i LOVE.
Please stop all the argument as it never solve anything. I am working oversea and I read all the comments by all of you.
Please don’t blame anyone neither the Govt nor the DAP PR police and the agency. You want to trust the system or not ,is up to you but you are living in the system so you have to make sure the system works accordingly.
Beng Hock is a victim of circunstances and somebody close to him in Selangor system know what has happened, but pretend not to know.By the incident all eyes and mind to Beng Hock and the real issues already forgotten and that is what the culprit wants. Hence he or she is the one responsibble for Beng Hock’s death.
The system are good and the guys handling the system must be good, keep up the good work for those who does it.
haish.everyone with their own theory.non-stop speculation and theory.let me also add. first MACC is not so stupid to kill someone in their own courtyard. far more easier to set him up in a car accident. they are only so stupid of doing their interrogation up till late night in a non-secure building. Even his boss the politician aka stupid money thief can come to this building at 12 o’clock mid nite so worried damn wat this guy had told MACC ha? im so dead. how to cover up? just pay some clever thug sneak here kill him instantly, coz CCTV oso not good here
n then this stupid MACC gonna get d blame 
my sympathy to late mr. teoh.i can predict what is going to be the verdit. the learned magistrate is going to decide that yeoh’s boss killed him to keep party secrets.then the whole opposition is going to jump and accuse the government of bending the truth. signs of the judgement is already there: unknown dna samples are there,of couse of the killer!. this rci is already flowing the plot of a hindi or tamil movie. i only hope that the Almighty will allow the late mr. teoh permission to come down & exact revenge on his killer and also on all others who bent evidence to cheat the public and his poor family.
Let settle the issue base on law. Dont meddle into police and legislative. It may cause confusion and can create political unrest and may harm stability.
I wonder, why when the are a lot case involved Malay, the majority in malaysia, the dont care about it…
why not ask phycic to help in the investigation, US police used to use this way to get clues for murder cases, this was showed on dicovery channel few years ago
woop…i think i already misstepped into the web of racist DAP. all they care is only their racial agenda…i wish them luck..but i dont think i like to live in a country where racism is the only agenda being pursued
The video of how TBH was tortured to death is horrible to watch. At least 4 peoples tortured TBH.
Semua
Sad to see Malaysia becoming like this…so teruk lah now. Very confusing. Whois wrong whois right? Hmm big, beautiful Country. I used to love Malaysia..BUT NOW…so takut to go there. Frm what i saw, i read, i heard and i look…TAK Bagus now. Middle class people are now can even feel safe to leave their house. Even ada duit, cannot drive big cars coz banyak sangat warga asing yang memerhatikan untuk jadi kan mangsa ragut lah, rompak lah, bunuh lah. Young children, young girls, makcik makcik, cik kak, cik kak also felt unsafe to jalan jalan alone even just wearing tiny piece of jewellery. Wait kena chop..mampus!.
Ok middle class ppl doesnt sound good, lets move to higher class ppl..hehh. Ahhh here is where…DONT SPEND OR SHOW OFF YOUR PROPERTY out loud..coz u might kena ambush for nothing..the whole world get to know from where u got ur $$? where & how u spend it? what ur business? how much your salary? how many houses? ada simpanan or not? (either money or perempuan lah)…etc..then next you know, its all in the paper for these robberies to targett your properties & children (for kidnap lah) ,kwang kwang kwang kwang….
M’sia has One too many cases,
Mongolian Beauty,
Chau Sio Lek,
Soromy,
DNA laws,
Elizabeth…now Teoh.
In short this is a CowBoy Country.
citizen of the world
guess what folks, when the system dun work then it need a new system after all, system does break down. and people has the power to choose a new system.
restin peace TBH n may your justice will be reveal soon in time.
As many have said, no matter how damning the evidence, usually no official action is taken. It is left to the public to take in all that is revealed, and then to do the right thing – exert the ultimate tool in a democracy – vote intelligently at the next election.
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